Grim Dawn vs Torchlight II
Grim Dawn is an action-RPG RPG game from Crate Entertainment (2016) while Torchlight II is an action-RPG RPG game from Runic Games (2012).
What each one is
Steam files Grim Dawn under Action-RPG and RPG. In contrast, it files Torchlight II under Action-RPG and RPG.
Enter an apocalyptic fantasy world where humanity is on the brink of extinction, iron is valued above gold and trust is hard earned. This ARPG features complex character development, hundreds of unique items, crafting and quests with choice & consequence.
The adventure continues in Torchlight II! An Action RPG filled with epic battles, bountiful treasure, and a fully randomized world. Bring your friends along for the journey with online and LAN multiplayer.
At a glance
| Grim Dawn | Torchlight II | |
|---|---|---|
| GamingPickz Score | 8.3/10 | 8.2/10 |
| Steam rating | Very Positive (93%, 109,295) | Very Positive (93%, 45,503) |
| Critic aggregate | 83/100 | 88/100 |
| Price | $24.99 | $19.99 |
| Install size | 5 GB | — |
| Steam Deck | playable | playable |
| Released | 2016 | 2012 |
| Developer | Crate Entertainment | Runic Games |
Prices and Steam ratings are read live and move over time.
Grim Dawn vs Torchlight II, point by point
Each facet side by side. A round is marked won only where a figure settles it; feel and "which is better" carry no mark, because no number we hold decides them.
Genre and premise
Grim DawnAction-RPG RPG gameTorchlight IIAction-RPG RPG gameWhat each is filed as. Each game describes itself in full above; we do not judge a premise.
How it plays
Grim DawnAction RPG, Hack and Slash, LootTorchlight IIRPG, Action RPG, Hack and SlashThe tags players apply most, in order of votes. A read on feel, not a verdict.
Reception
Grim Dawn ✓Score 8.3 · 93% on Steam · 83 criticTorchlight IIScore 8.2 · 93% on Steam · 88 criticThe GamingPickz Score is a composite of player sentiment, critics and popularity, computed the same way for every game.
Content and scale
Grim Dawn109,295 reviews · 8 add-ons · 5 GBTorchlight II45,503 reviewsReach and footprint, not quality: more reviews or a bigger install is not a better game.
Price
Grim Dawn$24.99Torchlight II ✓$19.99Read live from Steam and subject to change.
On a Steam Deck
Grim DawnPlayableTorchlight IIPlayableValve's own Deck compatibility rating.
Across the rounds a number can settle, it is level at 1 each. Which one is "better" is the part no figure decides, so we leave it to what you want from the two.
The two on the grid
Compare the whole catalogueGrim Dawn and Torchlight II on the axes the GamingPickz Score is built from, on the full 0 to 100 scale so each dot is its real position. Change either axis to compare them on any measure.
2 games have both
Players. The share of Steam reviews marked positive, pulled toward the catalogue average in proportion to how few reviews stand behind it. A game with 200 reviews moves a long way toward the average; one with 200,000 barely moves at all. Without this a title sitting at 100 percent on nine reviews outranks Half-Life 2 at 98 percent on 278,000.
Popularity. A blend of two things that are not the same. Audience is how many people wrote a Steam review, which is a floor on how many played it. Reach is how many language editions of Wikipedia document the game, which is cultural footprint rather than sales. A game can score high on one and low on the other: a huge free-to-play title has audience without reach, and a landmark console exclusive has reach without a Steam audience at all. Where both exist they are averaged; where only one does, that one carries it.
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How positions are decided
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Which to pick, by what you want
- The higher-rated of the two: Grim Dawn (GamingPickz Score 8.3)
- The cheaper right now: Torchlight II ($19.99)
- The safer bet by weight of reviews: Grim Dawn (109,295 reviews)
What they have in common
Both are tagged by Steam players with:
Action RPGHack and SlashLootIsometricRPGDungeon CrawlerCo-opSingleplayer
Where they differ
Dark FantasyDarkPost-apocalypticCraftingChoices Matter
Online Co-OpIndieReplay ValueSteampunkCartoon
Tags players apply to one game and not the other.
Difficulty and who each is for
By the tags players apply, Grim Dawn is middle-of-the-road on difficulty. Torchlight II is middle-of-the-road on difficulty.
System requirements, side by side
| Grim Dawn | Torchlight II | |
|---|---|---|
| Minimum GPU | 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series | — |
| Minimum CPU | x86 compatible 2.3GHz | x86-compatible 1.4GHz |
| Minimum RAM | 2 GB | 1 GB |
| Install size | 5 GB | — |
Can your PC run them? Check each against your own kit: Grim Dawn · Torchlight II.
Accessibility features
Steam store pages declare 1 accessibility feature for Grim Dawn and 0 for Torchlight II. A declaration is a floor, not a review.
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Common questions
How different are Grim Dawn and Torchlight II in scope?
Grim Dawn has drawn 109,295 Steam reviews, ships 8 add-ons and installs in 5 GB. Torchlight II has drawn 45,503 Steam reviews.
Is Grim Dawn or Torchlight II better?
By the GamingPickz Score, Grim Dawn rates higher (8.3 to 8.2). That is a composite of player sentiment, the critic aggregate and popularity, not our taste. "Better" also depends on price, length and platform, which the table above lays out.
Which is cheaper, Grim Dawn or Torchlight II?
Torchlight II is cheaper right now at $19.99, against $24.99. Prices move, so this is read live from Steam and can change.
Do you rank one above the other for a fee?
No. Neither game, nor anyone else, pays for placement or a verdict here. The order and every figure come out of the same public data the rest of the site uses.
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How we compare, and what we will not do
The GamingPickz Score is a composite of player sentiment (adjusted for sample size), the critic aggregate and popularity, computed by the same code every ranked list on this site uses. The Steam rating label is Valve's own, reconstructed from the positive percentage and review count. Prices are read live. We do not write an opinion of which game is "better": we report the numbers and say which wins each measurable question above.